Should You Run Coilovers or Lowering Springs?

Should You Run Coilovers or Lowering Springs?


– It is almost springtime and when I say almost, I mean instead of being
dark for 14 days in a row, now it’s sunny and it’s 0 degrees out which is a step in the right direction but as spring comes up, that usually means car part ordering is
right around the corner and people will order stuff for their car then they, you know, get sad because it’s not what they actually wanted or it didn’t do what they actually wanted which, completely off-related
and off-subject, okay, let’s just talk about this. Jasper’s in two damn videos, okay? He’s in school, he’s
not coming back, okay? He’s like that one summer
crush that you had. You gotta let it go, man. She went to college, let it go! You can follow her on Instagram
or something like that but you gotta stop just
following her around and asking when she’s coming back home ’cause it’s creepy, okay?
It’s a little bit creepy. Anyway, turns out that
when we’re looking at buying car parts, things can
be a little misleading, okay? Turns out when buying a turbo, that’s just not enough
to turbocharge your car which is really interesting. It’s the same thing with
suspension or maybe just throwing an intake and
exhaust on your Subaru and wondering why you’ve lost power. There’s a lot of things that
can go into just misconceptions about throwing things at your car and today we’re gonna
talk a little about that. I’m Alex, alex.fi on Instagram and today, we’re gonna be talking about whether you should be running coilovers or lowering springs for your next bill. And if this is your first time watching a Fitment Industries video, don’t forget to subscribe so we can keep making banging videos
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automatic entry in to win. When it comes down to
lowering springs or coilovers, it seems like a pretty easy one to answer. I mean, whether you should
go with one or the other, 90 people out of 90
people are gonna tell you to just go with coilovers because that’s just usually the go-to. But it’s actually not, especially
in today’s day and age. We’re gonna talk a little
bit as to why it is so don’t get mad, okay? Lowering springs have
become extremely popular over the last few years for
quite a few different reasons which is why this question has become more common than before because if you talk to some
of your new muscle car bros with Camaros and things like that, they’re gonna tell you that they picked up lowering
springs instead of coilovers. But to pick which one is best,
we’re gonna have to take… (ringing) For us to answer this question, we are gonna have to take
it a little bit back. About 10 years ago,
most vehicles came with a conventional independent
suspension system that can easily be replaced
with a coilover kit. I mean, a coilover shock absorber, it was a pretty easy thing to do. The coilover itself would
have a threaded body, you have a threaded locking collar, you have a custom spring, right? You’ve got damper control, usually. You’ve got a camber plate
that you can play around with and a few other goodies that a typical OEM suspension
just could not do. I mean, you just couldn’t
do it. All right? The only thing that
you could do is look at how many, you know, pancakes you could put in between your tire
and your actual fender because of how much wheel gap you have. A typical suspension just didn’t have any customization at all. Plus, OEM suspension
fitment was traditionally, as they say, very bunk, okay? So while there was an option of just buying a lowering spring
to lower your vehicle, that wouldn’t allow people
like you and people like me to have much control over
how much the vehicle behaved besides the way that it looked
and just getting it lower wasn’t always what people wanted to do. New coilover companies started popping up and essentially solved
a lot of those problems and they were putting out platforms for pretty much every car
that existed out there. You could get it for a Corolla. You could get it for an S13. You could get it for a 350Z. You could get it for a Praline. You could get it for a 911. You could get it for damn near a Yaris. I mean you could get it for anything and the fact that also
a lot of these coilovers could get you set up for
right around 1200 bucks, you could be set up with
a dialed-in suspension and you were set to go. Because of that, lowering springs that used to be the one thing you would do back in the early 2000s or even like ’90s, they got less and less popular, which is a little bit sad, all right? My boy, Zybok, H&R,
got a little sad, okay? This history lesson will tell you that coilovers are thing to buy but have the turbles…
tables turned, right? Damn it. And here’s why: nowadays, more vehicles are now coming with that typical suspension
system like an IRS or coilover but they’re coming out with fancy, fancy (kissing sounds)
five-course meal style coilover system, magnetic ride things. They’re coming out with fancy s***. I mean, Camaro ZL1s
would be introduced with magnetic ride control
which does nothing more than make you feel like you’re
the best driver in the world which is all new sports
cars are trying to do is try to make you feel like you’re the only that’s
actually driving this car when it’s really pretty much the car. In all honesty, it was the technology that adjusts the shock
absorbers in real time to changes in terrain
and driving situations. It behaves at thousands of seconds to react to how you’re driving it, okay? Its got the (untillegible) magnetorheological adaptive suspension. Magnetic, heliogical, that’s all I got. The word does exist, okay? We’ll just put it here, this is the word and here’s the definition and it’s a big one, all right? Impress your biology teacher. The magnetic ride control has
been a game-changing system especially for the Camaro lineup for performance on and off the track and magnetic ride control is something that’s not necessarily exclusive nor new only to a vehicle like Camaro. It’s been something that’s been popping up all over the place. Audi has a version of it. Porsche has a version of it. Everyone seems to now be
getting their own version of magnetic or adaptive
suspension technology and when your suspension can adapt to your driving experience
like a thousand times a second, it’s a little better, for the most part, than your conventional coilover
systems for 99% of the time. These cars and these platforms have gotten incredibly good with this technology and with a conventional coilover
coming right off the shelf from an after-market company, even though you can customize it and lowering it a little bit, because it’s not dynamic, it sometimes will not perform to the same capacity as a
dynamic suspension system. So what ends up happening? Well, in all honesty, people just end up swapping the springs. Swapping the springs to a lowering spring of some kind will ultimately give the vehicle
the best of both worlds. Because it will lower
the vehicle as a whole, the spring rate, as long as it stays within the variance of the vehicle, will still perform the magnetic
ride control or the magride and all that sort of stuff
without any issue at all, which gives you a more aggressive look and you still get to keep all
the cool, fancy buttons, okay? Keeping the tech that came with the car while still having a more aggressive setup for only about $279 is pretty damn good and it’s a win-win scenario
for a lot of people. You get to use what money you saved by picking up some wheels and tires. You know what I’m saying? Did I wink with both eyes? There we go. So to some people, lowering
springs are the answer but not all lowering
springs are created equal. Some are meant for the magneride swap while others will just throw
the whole system for a loop. If you’ve ever played with suspension or electronics on some of these cars, you know how terrible it can be. There are companies like
Eibach, which are spring masters when it comes to that sort of stuff and they develop very specific springs for these platforms which
gives plenty of people peace of mind when doing the swap. It’s gonna give them more
of an aggressive setup and the same with H&R springs,
they do the exact same thing but it’s important to remember that you are playing around with something that probably would cost about 10K to fix. The magneride suspension is no cheap baby. Lowering springs are also incredibly popular for simple lowering and slightly improved
handling characteristics because guess what, son? Even though coilovers are only $1200, $1200 can still be a
lot of money to somebody that’s just trying to build the car for a relatively low cost as they go to school or
maybe they’re trying to save up for something else, okay? They’re more affordable, they’re relatively easy to install, and it doesn’t require as much straight-up knowledge as a
coilover which truth be told, some of us, when we install coilovers, we don’t actually use them
the way we’re supposed to. I’m guilty of it. I did it the first coilover
setup I ever bought. I just slammed it right on the ground and I didn’t change anything else and then I just sent it
through, like, three years and I realized, wow, salt is
very hard on these coilovers and then that’s when you
learn about bloody knuckles. Coilovers, on the other hand, offer a more dialed-in and
custom suspension solution to a vehicle that may not
have all the fancy tech that these new sports cars have. Plus, when all just have, you know, if you have a $4000 project car, a $1000 set of coils ain’t that bad to buying a $40,000 car with
magnetic ride suspension which is the common thing
now but as the years go on, those cars will become
more and more affordable. There’s a few different situations where lowering springs
may be better for you. Those situations usually end
up being a) more affordable or b) you have an
electronic suspension system that adjusts it’s a nerd and it knows how to do it automatically or 3) you have a car that
doesn’t support a coilover swap which does happen every once in a while. If you have a torsion bar set up, I feel very, very bad for
you and I’m sorry, okay? And there’s a few different reasons as to why you would probably
want to run a coilover setup versus something that’s
just like a lowering spring. Those situations usually
end up being being a) your car has no magnetic
ride control which goes into b) it has bunk suspension
that looks like it’s on stilts and you wanna give it
some nice, clean look that’s gonna make the car actually perform a little bit better or c) you just really,
really, really need to dial in your suspension
to a tee for the track or some sort of perfect setup
based on a wheel and tire, based on some sort of track, based on something this
that and the other thing, something very, very specific. Those coilovers are gonna
be able to do that for you whereas lowering springs,
generally speaking, will not and that’s something you’re
gonna have to debate on. Depending on what you decide to own or what you decide to
modify and how you drive are all gonna make a
difference as to whether or not you’re gonna want to run
lowering springs or coilovers. Whether your price point
is at $1500 or $300, and all of those things play a part. What I can say is that if you’re running something
with magnetic ride control or something with very fancy technology in your suspension systems, you’re probably gonna stay
around lowering springs unless you’re trying to dial
in a very specific fitment, in which case, we would recommend swapping over to coilovers. Coilovers, on the other
hand, are a great platform that is pretty much something that you could throw
into any car these days and get you a nice dial-in fitment that’s gonna make your
car perform a lot better. But regardless on which
one you end up snagging, be sure to snag them over
at fitmentindustries.com. Boom! I’m not dabbing, this is just me slightly
moving to the left, okay? Let us know what you like
us to talk about next and of course, if you’re looking for after-market wheels, tires, or suspension, be sure to check us out over
at fitmentindustries.com. We hope you guys enjoyed this video. Let us know in the comments below what you’d like to see us
talk about next, all right? I’m sorry for getting mad about Jasper. I’m Alex from Fitment Industries
and we will see you later. Peace!

100 thoughts on “Should You Run Coilovers or Lowering Springs?

  1. Do you prefer coilovers or lowering springs? Drop a comment and let us know! Also, don’t miss out on your chance to win a free set of ESR Wheels —>>>http://bit.ly/379s0YN

  2. Keep in mind lowering any car changes the control arm/trailing arm/subframe related geometries, there are aftermarket bushings that can correct these adjustments, or also replacement adjustable control arms, tubular subframes, etc.

  3. I have Eibach lowering springs on my 03 acura tl. All im going for is the looks and plus i only go in a straight line. Fast foward 11 years later the suspension is still good and is still smoove.

  4. Can you guys make a video on How to Frankenstein your build by using other years or makes of car parts that may swap to your own car? Like swapping parts between trim levels (performance or visual) for example. Thanks!!

  5. I have eibach lowering springs and I can't wait to save up money for some coilovers. This things are a nightmare. I can't drive my friends. If 3 of us sit in the car the car rubs on my wheels (195/50/15), and cornering is like stock, the car leans to much on the side and loses a lot of speed. Coilovers are a better solution (in my world at least).

  6. Progressive lowering springs and an upgraded shock unless you gotta slam the car or track it, then get a cheap coilover to slam it or a nice KW or Ohlins to track it!

  7. Considering my car has active dampening from the factory, springs it is 😀 Otherwise I'd be scraping on some BC Racing coils

  8. You know what i should run. I should run a gift from fitment industries because it’s my birthday. 🥳🍻

  9. Coilovers usually increase noise and vibration cuz they use camber plates instead of the stock rubber mount.

  10. Um, actually – Magneto-ree-a-logical. it means you can adjust the electrical current on the fly. That being said, I hope I dont sound like a smug-boi. I'm a big fan of the vids. keep em going, guys.

  11. Good ol springs. I remember in the late 90s early 2000s with all the cheap knock off coil over kits that sucked! Unless you can get Teins or some real shit. SPRINGS! Never can go wrong with springs. Static setups are boss F that adjustable shit.

  12. Im for lowering springs just because Im on a budget and I dont even drive a performance car. But I always match them with shocks and struts. Tein H-techs for a 1.8 inch drop on top of adjustable Tein Endurapros. $200 more would get me on their lowest available coilovers

  13. Coilovers or lowering springs:

    Well, what do you plan on doing with the car? You plan on racing or just wanna look bitchin? Race? Coilovers. Look bitchin? Lowering springs.

  14. Just buy raceland when getting into car for the first time you dont want to drop 1k+ on coilovers because YOU WILL BEAT THEM UP. It's not worth it make mistakes that will not leave you eating ramen for the whole month.

  15. So can anyone answer this question, I’m making a build sheet for a 2015-2017 mustang gt Premium without the performance package. Should I go eibach springs or bc racing coilovers?

  16. I’m currently saving up for the eibach package with springs shocks and sway bars, good drop and handling and it’s cheaper than coils

  17. Personally, PERSONALLY, after owning both switching between many brands expensive and inexpensive for 10+ years being stanced, slammed, dumped, lowered, you name it. I like me some good old stock suspension rebuilt with adjustable dampening and upgraded sway bars(not to be commonly mistaken with strut bars) strut bars may help improve chassis rigidity, so it may also be a plus to help handling by a very small percentage when it comes to time. Best part about this setup is not having to worry about bumps or dips as often, damaging the natural structure of the coinciding suspension components, and overall comfort on a daily basis with improved handling on the twistes.

  18. I'm running H&R spring on Koni Yellows. I prefer the simplicity of my setup because my build is centered around daily driven performance.

  19. HAHA wow this channel is amazing I just order a new set of coilovers Wondering springs of death? Or be the right guy. This video shows up XD

  20. My GTR came with Active Suspension Dampening, so i opted for KW Sleeve Kit making my factory shocks ride height adjustable. My Q50 now has the same thing, but I want to dial in my wheel fitment and no one makes a sleeve kit so I might just go for BC Coils.

  21. Another great video Al…quick question tell me why it is that everytime I think it you come up with the video smh lol love you guys #fitmentgang

  22. I own a 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage Hatchback. Its my daily drive. It has a stock mushy suspension. Should i coil it or just get a good springs?

  23. Daily Drive with my Lowering Springs always gets me down…

    Literally… the way i wanted to be… 😊👍

  24. The obvious answer is to go with coilovers since it's an All in One solution
    Only downside is that they're expensive, but is indeed 100% worth the upgrade
    Lowering springs is for your broke af lolz
    imo, I would refrain from using lowering springs on new or under 15 years old cars

  25. my friend is giving me his old lowering springs with shocks when he gets coilovers so, id say springs if u get a really good deal then coilovers.

  26. please do more videos like this explaining all the other stuff you actually need to install parts! Would be great information for people coming into the car scene and wanting to modify cars (Me being one of them) and not knowing all the extra bits and pieces you need that people dont talk about for install Turbos, Exhaust, Intake, Suspension, Brakes etc. Would be a awesome series imo!

  27. Coilovers are a must for me cause I’m super ocd about my fitment. But on budget daily builds, always gotta go lowering springs!

  28. lowering springs for my VW Up! it’s a daily driver for me and i wanted to personalize it for work home traffic together with some 17 inch rims, not planning on hitting up a track in that vehicle, maybe some little car meets with friends and that’s it

  29. Here's my take. Was thinking about coilovers for my 04 TSX. I've decided though to get Koni adjustable shocks with a set of H&R lowering springs. I'm never going to mess with the ride night and I do plan on tracking the car every now and then. I think an adjustable shocks and lowering spring is the way to go for me.

  30. Can never let Go of Jasper, REAL OGs know of the Jasper days, always good to see him return when he's in the area.

  31. Shiiiiiet anyone with a brain knows coil overs are the best buuuuuuuut pros get coil overs and lowering springs

  32. With spring you get new struts and shocks all around for the low look with stick ride quality . When you install springs with worn out struts or shocks ride quality will be bouncy and you will wear out the Dampers more so they will bottom out. If dampeners are worn wen going over speed bumps and you lowered car it will tend to bottom out due to age and it’s a lot less stiff

  33. I just want to go with lowering springs because i don't want to lose the comfort. I'm also a volvo guy so coilover aren't really needed😂

  34. If your lowering using your OE shocks and struts (non magnetic) you may not be happy with the ride control . I've had many experiences with this problem.
    You may find that the increased spring rate makes for a bouncy and annoying harsh ride , you may also find that your suspension travel is much reduced either hammering the bump stops (or riding on them …even if you trim them) At a minimum you should consider SHORTER shock body aftermarket shocks and struts , with increased rebound valving for the increase in spring rate. Bilstein B8's or Koni Yellows are very good IMO , I would avoid Koni Streets as the shock body is in my experience , the same length as the OE's with only only slightly "stiffer" rebound control…. basically a OE spring , upgrade shock.. IMO

  35. So im 19 and im planning a 350z build a head of time but I know absolutely nothing about cars, i had seen videos of people building engine’s and adding a turbo, is it required to build a engine before a turbo ?, and if so can i buy a prebuilt engine online ?

  36. My 87 Honda CRX Si has torsion bar setup in the front, fortunately a company named Heeltoe Automotive worked with Tein to make a Coilovers kit, since there are torsion bars in front, it’s only dampers for the front, and you adjust the torsion bars for ride height.

  37. Ran Springs for a year and it didn’t look right. I researched a lot and still had my rear dumped while my fronts didn’t look like it went low. I grinder hard and slapped coils in it and I won’t go back. I’ll only go forward to Bags but that’s not in the near future. Bags are expensiveeeeeee

  38. Most cases I'd say coilovers are- but I bought my G37 on an eibach pro spring kit and it's perfect. It's the exact height I want- performance is good, and my wheel fitment is damn near perfect so no complaints here

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